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Rick Warren condemns Uganda anti-gay bill

December 15th, 2009 Cherie Leave a comment Go to comments

[December 17, 2009, A gay man from Uganda  responded to this article, saying "It is sad that untruths are peddled. Uganda is a majority Christian country. Most of us are Catholics. Then come protestants, or Anglicans and Pentecostals.   No. There is no 'Muslim majority' which demanded the death penalty and life imprisonment. It is our Christian brothers and sisters who wrote that bill. Who wrote in the death penalty. Who wrote in all the other things.  They did it because of their abhorence of all things homosexual.  Please, tell the story like it is. Dont sanitize the Christians in Uganda. Because, they are actually suprised at what you say. They love the bill, as it is now."

This information does not conform to my last conversation with Archbishop Orombi, re: this bill and what is the majority of religious? Also, this is typical of a gay response to any measure that would limit free and open expression of homosexuality, especially in the schools.  The note below is still the fact to remember about this argument.  Cheryl M. Wetzel]

[Ed. Note:  It is imperative to remember that Archbishop Henry Luke Orombi and the Ugandan House of Bishops has condemned the inclusion of the death penalty in this bill.  That inclusion is the work of the Islamic majority in Uganda and the Anglicans have disassociated themselves from it.  Cheryl M. Wetzel]

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Posted on Dec 11, 2009 | by Mark Kell, Assistant Editor, The Baptist Press

LAKE FOREST, Calif. (BP)–A proposed law in Uganda that would require execution of some homosexuals has been condemned by California mega-church pastor Rick Warren.

“The potential law is unjust, extreme and un-Christian toward homosexuals,” said Warren, pastor of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, Calif., in an open letter to pastors of Uganda posted at rickwarren.com and in a video on youtube.com.

“We are all familiar with Edmund Burke’s insight that, ‘All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.’ That is why I’m sharing my heart with you today,” Warren said. “As an American pastor, it is not my role to interfere with the politics of other nations, but it IS my role to speak out on moral issues.”

The Anti-Homosexuality Bill of 2009, introduced in October, would expand the punishment for homosexual behavior to include life imprisonment and in some cases the death penalty. Homosexuality already is illegal in Uganda, punishable by up to 14 years imprisonment. But under the proposed legislation, for example, practicing homosexuals who have HIV would receive the death penalty.

The bill also would require authority figures to report homosexuals within 24 hours of discovering their behavior, and if they fail to do so, such officials could be punished with up to three years in prison.

The proposed law would have “a chilling effect” on church ministries to hurting people because it would require pastors to report homosexuals to authorities, Warren said.

“As you know, in Africa, it is the churches that are bearing the primary burden of providing care for people infected with HIV/AIDS,” Warren said. “If this bill passed, homosexuals who are HIV-positive will be reluctant to seek or receive care, comfort and compassion from our churches out of fear of being reported.”  

Warren noted that he and his wife Kay “have devoted our lives and our ministry to saving the lives of people, including homosexuals, who are HIV-positive.”

But, he said, “The freedom to make moral choices and our right to free expression are gifts endowed by God.” Uganda, he noted, “is a democratic country with a remarkable and wise people, and in a democracy everyone has a right to speak up. For these reasons, I urge you, the pastors of Uganda, to speak out against the proposed law.”

In mid-November, Exodus International, a Christian ministry that seeks to assist homosexuals in overcoming unwanted same-sex attractions, sent a letter to Uganda’s president, Yoweri Museveni, expressing concern over the proposed legislation.

“If homosexual behavior and knowledge of such behavior is criminalized and prosecuted, as proposed in this bill, church and ministry leaders will be unable to assist hurting men, women and youth who might otherwise seek help in addressing this personal issue,” said the letter, which was signed by Alan Chambers, president of the Orlando-based organization; Randy Thomas, the group’s executive vice president; Christopher Yuan, an adjunct professor at Moody Bible Institute; and Warren Throckmorton, a member of the Clinical Advisory Board of the American Association of Christian Counselors. “The Christian church cannot and should not condone homosexual living or gay-identified clergy within its leadership, but it must be permitted to extend the love and compassion of Christ to all. We believe that this legislation would make this mission a difficult if not impossible task to carry out.”

The legislation has been endorsed by Ugandan pastor Martin Ssempa, who spoke during Saddleback Church’s Global Summit on AIDS in 2005 and 2006 but was not invited to the 2007 summit after Warren learned Ssempa’s “beliefs and actions were vastly different from ours,” Warren said.

Warren also used the open letter to defend himself against critics who interpreted his previous silence on the proposed law as support for it.

Warren said he was communicating with the pastors in Uganda “to correct lies, errors, and false reports” that associated his name “with a law that I had nothing to do with, completely oppose, and vigorously condemn.”

“As a pastor, I’ve found the most effective way to build consensus for social change is usually through direct quiet diplomacy and behind the scenes dialogue, rather than through media,” Warren said. “But because I didn’t rush to make a public statement, some erroneously concluded that I supported this terrible bill, and some even claimed I was a sponsor of the bill. You in Uganda know that is untrue. I am releasing this video to you and your congregations to correct these untruths and to urge you to make a positive difference at this critical point in your nation.”

While churches must obey Christ’s command to love all people, they also must be clear about biblical teaching on homosexuality, Warren added.

“While we can never deny or water down what God’s Word clearly teaches about sexuality, at the same time the church must stand to protect the dignity of all individuals — as Jesus did and commanded all of us to do,” he said. “Let me be clear that God’s Word states that all sex outside of marriage is not what God intends. Jesus reaffirmed what Moses wrote that marriage is intended to be between one man and one woman committed to each other for life. Jesus also taught us that the greatest commandment is to love our neighbors as ourselves. Since God created all, and Jesus suffered and died for all, then we are to treat all with respect. The Great Commandment has been the centerpiece of my life and ministry for over 35 years.”
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Mark Kelly is an assistant editor for Baptist Press.

  1. CockyZ
    December 16th, 2009 at 07:13 | #1

    Take a pinch of fear of the boogieman, shake-it-mix-it-blend-it with loud cries about homosexuals (accent on the “x”) destrrrroying (roll those Rs) society, and serve this as a politico-religious sauce over piping-hot Bahati rice. Meanwhile, in a separate kitchen, sift and sprinkle a flurry of money and favors, gently stoke the egos and quietly line the pockets of leading politicians, including the president. Voilà, presto! Your takeover and rape of a nation’s untapped oil and gas reserves goes unnoticed. Everyone is happy. The corrupt president and his henchmen have diverted attention; the oil executives get their prize; the church gets a new toy – a brand new witch hunt; the public gets schtupped. It’s a great day!

  2. Cherie
    December 22nd, 2009 at 10:31 | #2

    Well, Cocky Z has lived up to his/her name. Boogieman? No. Effete East Coast accent? No. Typical histrionics from gay supporters? Yes. Scripture is very clear about why God created male and female. What don’t you all understand about this? Cheryl M. Wetzel

  3. Allan Watts
    December 28th, 2009 at 21:15 | #3

    The editor’s comment on the anti-gay bill in Uganda, ” It is imperative to remember that Archbishop Henry Luke Orombi and the Ugandan House of Bishops has condemned the inclusion of the death penalty in this bill.” Mighty generous of them, I must say. How about them being appalled that anyone would get ANY time in jail for merely being gay, or being black or being a fundamentalist bigot.

    I am utterly appalled that even Anglicans who have a moral issue with overt same-sex behavior make tacit excuses for this bill. Suppose I was a 17th century Anglican and said it was wrong to excute Quakers, Puritans and atheists but it was OK to imprison them for life. You folks make it easy to believe that your real agenda is homophobia, not a moral imperative.

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